UnderwareDESIGN

I am asking around the site if someone or anyone would
Like to help me create bubbleshoot game art?

I am busy programming the game and I am not so good at graphics design.
Anyone that contributes will be given an free copy or a download of the game.
I will share it but need alittle help making good graphics for it.

Thanks
ScottieB

like this kind a thing;
(http://androidmarket.cz/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Bubble-Shooter-1.jpg)

Yes,  But it can be a lot nicer looking than that example.

Depending on how we create the assets.

The screen dimension I'll be using is 1024 X 768 and it will support two players working together.

ok couple questions;
are there two cannons or two cannons and two sets of bubbles?
what size would the bubbles be?
is it network or two player one keyboard? (just interested)

Do you have a preference for theme? i thought halloween (walking dead) but i think it's a bit late for that
Could you show me a bubble design that you like?

Yes two cannons and cooperative mode but I will probably have various modes
Like challenge mode both players competing for best time too.

Bubbles  32 x 32 or 48 x 48 but it will be easy switching sizes I think.

Theme Christmas would be nice but we will want something for all year also

We really just need cannons,bubbles,backgrounds and maybe some extras.

We can set it up anyway we want.
Or arrange it like you wish.

Thanks
ScottieB

Here's a set of a few bubbles.
The problem I'm having is I can get them to work perfectly in The Gimp paint program.
But what code do I need to have to make them display right in Playbasic?


This would give a real bubbles look to the game.
Any ideas on what blending operation do I need to use?

Thanks
ScottieB

this is a major problem with playbasic scottie. you have to jump through hoops to get anti aliasing to work.
i remember some examples of getting AA to work but i can't find them atm.
i want to work up some gfx for this so i'll try make them 1bit.
sorry i haven't responded but my internet has been down

I was wondering if I lost you.
That would be a bummer since I don't have many people interested in the project.
I looked all over then net for assets but the ones I found seem to be for ipads,androids or
phones with wrong or smaller dimensions.

The bubbles you see now above would be good but I still can't get them to display right like
they do in a photoshop or the likes.

If you could show me an example on how to do this it would be greatly appreciated.
Also I would still need help in improving the graphics pipeline some more.
Like cannons,backgrounds and extras.

Like I said earlier you will receive a free copy for helping me and if you want
I can add you name in the credits as graphics designer/assistant.

Thanks
ScottieB

check this out scottie;
http://www.underwaredesign.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.0 (http://www.underwaredesign.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.0)
like i said; a real pain

I'm checking out your post right now and I it looks hard like you say.
Is there a way you can code me up a snippet for the bubbleshooter?
I know you know more about this than I do right now since it was your post.
I just want real nice looking bubbles instead of just solid images.

Please respond when you have time.
Until then I'll check the post out further.

check out the demo in this post;
http://www.underwaredesign.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.msg16977#msg16977 (http://www.underwaredesign.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.msg16977#msg16977)

Maybe,  I'm asking too much out of these bubbles.
Looks like a long process and a hard one at that which will be overhead on gfx.
Plus I think I need all kinds of blending of some sorts too on top of it.

If you would like...
I'll let you decide where to go from here.

You can choose the theme.  Maybe, Christmas.
But what I need is just some nice graphics to top my program off.
Only a few things considering it's not that big.

Would you like a running copy of so far???
I just want this project to look and feel nice that's all.

Thaniks
ScottieB


P.S.  I was just hopeing that would look like actual bubbles.

ok. i think 1bit is the way to go. i'll see if i can put something together
yes. a running copy would be good so i can get an idea of image sizes

Here you go blink.

It's not done.
I'm still working on it.
I was stump about making it look more appealing.

I think I would like to increase the sprite sizes a bit.

Say 48 X 48 for bubble sizes ect...

Don't reuse any of the graphics here.
They where bought online at my attempt to make it look better.

Thats why I want our own because I'm writing the game.

Thanks
ScottieB

ha! that looks fantastic scottie! well done mate.
i'll get on those gfx

Kewl beans!

I'll give you some time.
Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Peace
ScottieB

ok i'm working on a little something something. can you modify the game as follows;
1. it needs to be able to animate the bubbles (frame by frame and maybe a programmed shake)
2. it needs to generate particle effects when they pop (disappear)
are those changes ok?

ok how about this. sort of a monsters/day of the dead mash up;
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/title_zpsxijtfp2o.png)

firstly you'll notice the characters are not perfect circles so they'll overlap but i think that will be ok.
secondly when you shoot they will just be coloured bubbles but when they hit another bubble they will "pop" into their character.
when they explode it will be like a "splat", like coloured paint
the general idea is that there will be "heaps" of animation and particles that will be going off everywhere

the bubbles are monster characters (they're a little rough at the edges but hey, that's 1bit. A little less noticeable against an image background );
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/monsters_zpsfriorheo.png)

this is with AA;
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/monstersAA_zpscoe8rj2a.png)

they would all have little movements that they do so the whole screen would be moving just a little. they would bobble around a little bit too, here's and example;
http://www.fastswf.com/swf--SU (http://www.fastswf.com/swf--SU)

i thought you could have 3 other "force bubbles" that would;
1. destroy bubbles around it
2. destroy bubbles horizontally
3. destroy bubbles vertically


anyway, if it's not your cup of tea no worries. just find one you like, post a pic and i'll see what i can do

Awesome graphics BlinkOk!

I love it.
Monstaz!

How would you do the normal bubbles?

Can you post design notes so I can modify the program?

Anything else you can post for cannons or backdrop would be nifty by me!

You got a great way of designing stuff.

This can be a joint effort on you and my part.

Sorry I did not reply sooner but I've been busy with stuff.

You will definately be given credits for graphics design.

I will try to see you through this project but my time is limited for the time being.
Next week seems to be looking better.

But I can't wait to see your animations or future help.

Sincerely,
ScottieB

awesome scottie. i'll mock something up over the next couple days

no worries on the time. we can take as long as we want. no rush at all

Blink thanks for understanding.

I would love to see anything else you come up with not being pushy but
Surprizes help me carry on with the project like the ones above and they keep me working
On the project at hand.

I'd love to see one of those animations your talking about.

Though normal bubbles you say would come first.
Shakey should be all that hard to add.  I don't think.

A powerball shouldn't be that hard either.

But until later

Many Thanks
ScottieB

p.s. Your email address would be nice because this program can grow big.

Mine

ScottieBro@yahoo.com

no worries scottie. the mockup will explain a lot
tony AT kazoowee DOT com

ok quick progress report. here's some animation examples;

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/monsters_zpskj9bjrmj.gif)

they all have a programmed wobble(very simple sin/cos code).
the RED, BLUE, ORANGE, GREEN and GREY ones have personalized animations

Awesome Blink!

I get the wobble.

Can you post the animation frames for the monsters!

Or better yet a demo program that I can incorporates anti-alias versions into my bubbleshooter.
Basically your AA post with key frames of the monstarz animations.

I can add the sin/cos wiggle myself.

Still curious about the bubbles before these animations? Or will it be three monstarz?

I like the personalities you gave most of the creatures.

Your doing awesome mate keep it up!

I can't wait till next week when I can work more with you.
Thanks for helping me with graphics I will spend my time adding all your stuff into the game.
I'm not so good at doing graphics but I can make lots of things with play basic.

I hope you don't give up on this because I feel your pretty good.
You also give me the drive to keep on programming.

So, until later
Peace and happy computing!
ScottieB

no worries scottie. ill certainly finish this so don't worry about that.
i'll probably take the weekend to put together a working mockup


monster anims done. on to backgrounds;
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/monsters1_zps0h1gvixf.gif)

new logo (the .gif messed with the colours but you get the idea) . it's coming together;
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/monstaz_zpsnrpbn9eg.gif)

Nice! Now all monstarz are animated.
I'm anxious to see what you do with backgrounds.

I now have a few days to work on our program on and off.

I'm not clear on the way you want it done.
Do bubbles turn into the monstarz or do we just use the monstaz for matching?

If bubbles come first then I still don't got good bubbles for monstarz but
If it is the monstarz then were advancing along.

I love your personal touch.

Can you attach the files you got so far for downloading so I can get a better idea on
What I looking at.

Have you typed up the designers notes yet? 

Are the animation shown like your AA demos?
If so then will have to add that ability to the game.

Hope to hear from you soon.
scottieB

I've been messing with the Anit-Aliasing and I've finally come up with real looking bubbles!
Check out the pic the red one is mine.

Not That I want to get rid of the monsarz but maybe the can come first or monstaz inside them.

The function that Kevin wrote works great of this.

They go great with the background now.

awesome! AA means the graphics are much easier to make

background done. i'll do the cannons and bubbles to shoot and send you a graphics pack. getting there bit by bit;

Awesome! BlinkOK!

Nice background!

This is going to look great.
Cannons and bubbles next. Kewl!

Your modding the game quite well I must say.
Can't wait to put it all together.

Did you check your email?
I left you a message.
Hope it got through.

Thanks a bunch Tony!
I hope we can do further work together.

ScottieB

yes i did get your mail and i replied. hope you got it

I did and recently replied.

got it. a little more progress.

Awesome!!!!!


I love it!

Tony I just left you a giant download in your email.

It's for you.  It's my Thanks you.

Check email again left a couple of more goodies!

thanks for all the stuffs scottie. looks great. i think i'm just about done. gotta do some you won/lost titles
are you gonna do a high score or anything like that?
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/bg4_zpstcsihwy1.gif)

No I don't think so.
I'm just gonna keep it pretty basic for now but...
Can I call on further assistance later? If needed.

Tony I left another large download for you today this morning.

Feel free to post any of them up on the playbasic site at anytime.

They are my big share to you and the playbasic community.

no worries scottie. i'm always around. i'm concerned that the bubbles are too big.

do you think i should make them smaller, say 36x36.

anyway, here are some splosions;
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/splosions_zpsc4f6fixs.gif)

Kewl explosions and scoreing.

36 X 36 would be great too.
I can rescale if needed and I do have a good sprite packer now.
Took a lot of searching but I got A good one now.

ok. scaled the bubbles down. sent a sprite pack off to scottie. i'll let him percolate on it for a while.

i have a bit of a concern that there is a limit on the number of overlapping transparent sprites but we'll see what happens

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/mz_zpsy0prgcr6.png)

Thanks for the SpritePack!!!!!

I'll start working on it right away.

If you come up with anything else please let me know.
Example:  The neat scoring system to the left.

I don't think it includes the powerball either.

What about the chain reaction are you still thinking of that?
Oh,  And the Win loose.

Not to mention the awesome titlescreens you already have!!!!!!

But I have enough for a bit now.
Thanks


Thanks
ScottieB

yes still stuffs to do.
the power balls will destroy all bubble across, diagonally or in a circle.
like so. (this would be the across one)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/horizontal_zpsdjru8xje.gif)

Wow!
Your really expanding this game.
I worked a bit on it today got the orbs working and the start of move animations.
I wanted to say the files from the pack are great ok to work with.

Please send me updated one when you get around to it.
I also feel like I need time now to trying to get everything into the engine and looking right.

I look forward to seeing advances you make like this lightning one.

I have to code up some more to make room for all this.
Program lines will increase as so is the frames remember we can only work with about 1000
And your half way now approximately.

I would love downloads of the logos as well.

Thanks BlinkOk for everything.
You deserve my hard work I put into those programs I sent you.
We can make them much more together.

Your friend
ScottieB

Hi Blink,

Today I've gotten most animations up and running.
Then will come explosion animations.
Still a bunch of stuff to do on this end.

How's things coming along? Anything new or different now?

Still waiting on updated download really like to see how things are in newer packs.

Loved those title screens.

How about point system I see them above what's the negative values stand for?

Is there a bitmap font? Or will you have one?

Just wanted to say Hi for the day.

How old are you anyways? I still don't know much about you.

Bye for now
scottieB

sounds good scottie. nothing much going on here atm. a little work on the splash screens
still thinking about the force bubble animations.
btw. what kind of logo/name do you want for "ScottieB"? do you have a logo (any logo) you like ?

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/play_zpsqusrnnkb.gif)

Neat-O!

Kewl titlescreen.

No,  I don't have a logo.
But something like credits would be ok.

Programmer:  Scott Brosious
Graphics Designer:  Tony? You!

Unless you can think of something better?

Any ideas for sound effects or ambient music?

Early I memtioned Bitmap fonts do you plan on creating a set for this game?


The one I use is both for PlayBasic and DarkBasic Pro.
Do you know what one I'm referring too?

It should be in the program I sent you isn't it?

Still waiting on any updated packs or files you can send me.

I like seeing progress it's really nice.

Thanks for everything
ScottieB

logo: ok i'll make a logo
sound: not me!
font: i'll create them
i'll send an update on the gfx today i think

That's Kewl.

Can't wait to see it and other things you'll be working on.

Thanks
ScottieB

Added logos to the splash screen (i sent them to you scottie)

let me know if you need winning/losing screens too

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/blinkok/splash_zpsn0vzeydc.png)

Nice touch!

Yes, I would like win loose screens.
It would make the game more complete.

Any word on our own bitmap fonts tailored for the game?

Thanks anyways for the credits logos.

So far so good everything fitting into the game nicely.
Working out explosions at the time trying to make them look and behave well.

Yes I think win loose would round out the game from title to game to end.


ScottieB

i am just using bitmaps for the score/points (which i sent)
is there any other reason why you want a bitmap font?
i'll do the win/lose thingies

Your right I do not need bitmap fonts.  Your numbers and points will cover that.

But I would love win/loose screenies.


Oh,  And by the way were missing a green colour in the heads up display folder.

Thanks
ScottieB

ok. i'll sort that. i'll have a little muck about with the code today too