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Title: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: kevin on September 25, 2010, 06:37:33 PM

 What's the best 2D video game ever made ? (and you can't say Mario :) )


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Post by: monkeybot on September 26, 2010, 03:15:25 PM
manic miner.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: micky4fun on September 26, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
some absolute classics to choose from , could pick 10 easy

my favourite has to be a mining game as well , miner 2049er
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: Devain on September 27, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
I'm going to say Super Metroid. Or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.

Open-ended platformers with lots of style and character. Though campy Japanese stories don't really cut it...
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Post by: Adaz on September 27, 2010, 03:56:53 AM
Unequivocally Shadow Of The Beast II !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iENsnbU651U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iENsnbU651U)



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Post by: Paladin on September 27, 2010, 07:50:21 AM
For me it would be Lode Runner Classic.

Ralph Flye
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Post by: kevin on September 28, 2010, 02:48:01 AM
 Personally, i can't really pin down just one 2d game as my all time favourite.   Different games during different era's

 Here's a couple i mentioned on the PlayBasic facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/PlayBasic/127905400584274) page.

QuoteSome of my favourites would have come from the same era also. Early stuff like Lode Runner , Karatake / Way Of the Exploding Fist, Shamus, Boulder Dash, Revs, Nebulus, SWIV , Giana Sisters (grin) etc etc


Adrian also mentioned Thrust.


C64 Longplay - Thrust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOl2swTtheM)





Playing Shamus on a VIC20 (VC20)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkkE3H284SE)





Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: kevin on October 16, 2010, 07:48:07 AM
 So there's no 'Zelda' fans here then...?

Speaking of Nebulus when looking for a remake and stumbled upon a game called Icy Towers (http://www.icytower.com/).  Seems to be fairly popular and dead simple to write..



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Post by: ATLUS on October 16, 2010, 08:53:22 AM
castlevania symphony of the night
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Post by: kevin on November 01, 2010, 02:36:43 PM

Finally got to play castlevania symphony of the night, pretty good so far.   It's curious how the world is made up some small fragments though.   
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: Laskiapina on December 10, 2010, 10:42:07 AM
Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle!

It has a great story, great voice acting, beautiful graphics and good music. I can't think of anything that's wrong with it.

I kind of hope there would be a sequel to Maniac Mansion 2 but it would have to be written by the same team and the graphics would have to be in 2D. I think Monkey Island 3 style would fit.
Otherwise the sequel would be pointless to make and it would just ruin the whole thing.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: ATLUS on February 12, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
The Last Express

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Express
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Post by: LemonWizard on March 16, 2011, 12:21:22 AM
Legend of Zelda a link to the past. SNES. It was remade for GBA, and titled "Legend of Zelda Link to the past/Four Swords"

I miss owning that one. It was fun.

Another great game was Donkey Kong Country 1. Why number 1? Because it was the first of it's genre in a sense of graphical innovation.
That, and the game innovated in several other ways to. Aside from mario world, the game had alot of grabbable/movable objects.
Alot more than most sidescroller games of that era, aside from say? Megaman.

Also there was Metroid. yes the original.
Pokemon. Red/Blue.

Best of all though, the best out of ALL of those games? I have to say, would have been Link to the Past.
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Post by: AndyD on March 16, 2011, 05:13:18 AM
It would have to be between Zelda III: A Link to the Past and Super Mario World.

I finished both games, which is quite unusual for me!

I was playing Super Mario World last week and was amazed at the "echo" applied to the sound effects in a cave level. The attention to detail still amazes me after nearly 20 years, so the prize has to go to the plumber.
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Post by: Adeythrash on March 16, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
ATLUS, you mentioning The Last Express made me think of stop the express, on the spectrum.
It was less than 16kb long so it's made for original 16kb speccy, which goes to show how old it is.

Used to make me laugh when you finished a level it would display "Congraturation - You success!!!"

Still, I spent hours playing that game, fiendishly tricky and quick to boot. :)

And AndyD, you can't have the plumber, as Kevin did say in the 1st post, no mario. :P
Too easy to say mario, but I loved the zelda games, so definitely a worthy runner up to the moustachioed one.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: AndyD on March 17, 2011, 05:03:53 AM
Then Zelda III it is.
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Post by: kevin on March 17, 2011, 09:08:16 AM
 This is a game I played a lot as a teenager.  Was the first game (that i can remember) that used a more cinematic approach..  

[Apple II] Karateka (1984) (Broderbund)


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Post by: Laskiapina on March 17, 2011, 11:34:09 AM
I have to say Commander Keen too :D
Keen 4 is my favorite. I believe Keen and Day Of The Tentacle were the main reasons I wanted to try programming.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D game ever ?
Post by: kevin on March 20, 2011, 06:24:16 AM
 Mario was (and still is) an all time classic, as such it can often over shadow other lesser known but still great games of the era.    I didn't have a Nintendo machine at that time, so was only exposed to such clones as The Great Giana Sisters Which was pretty legendary on it's own.

 Amiga Longplay [322] The Great Giana Sisters

 




 I was big fan of shoot'em ups (Still are).  On the Amiga SWIV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzD81DjnLl0) was incredible at the time, playing co-op  was a favorite, it's one of the only shoot'em up games i have vivid memories of completing.     It's also one the first games that i can think of that spooled 99% off the floppy disc during play.   So there's no levels as such, you just battle all the way through it until the final boss.

 SWIV On Amiga

 


 
Nebulus on the C64 was another that really caught my attention.  Like a lot of classic games of the 8bit era,  it's a great example of innovative design over coming hardware limitations to create a great game.    

 Nebulus on the C64
 



 A lot of 8bit games (on hardware like the C64) were jam packed with complex effect programming.   They might seem trivial today, but writing decent scrolling screen with sprite multiplexer was no walk in the park.     Games like Uridium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uridium) demonstrate this.    

 Uridium

   

   

 (c64 version)

 

 (Spectrum version)

   


 One the grand daddies of 80's the era would have to be ELITE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuvbZpH1QuE) though,  personally it wasn't game I played much of, but this game could easily be considered the great great grand farther of some many modern day techniques, such as procedural generation to name a few.   Not bad for a game written on 8bit cpu (who needs multiples& divides :) ) with less than 64k of memory.    

   Elite

   




  Another interesting step in terms of early 3d game would be The Sentinel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hwjBEJkGW4).  While not real time, attempting filled 3D polygon landscape on 8bit machine was way ahead of it's time.    


 The Sentinel

 


Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: ATLUS on March 23, 2011, 03:31:51 AM
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: feildmaster on March 23, 2011, 03:41:52 AM
I'm gonna be biased.

If you want non-multi/old school i'll say Zelda.

If you want what i think is the best 2d game, I'd say MapleStory. (Before the current owners fucked everything up)
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: bmorris on January 03, 2014, 04:54:57 AM
Super Mario World was my first console platform game, and I've always considered it to be the platform game par excellence. The Donkey Kong Country SNES games were also excellent, although I only played the third one for the first time recently on an emulator. My brothers used to play the four Megaman games on the NES a lot, but they were too hard for me...

Based both on my childhood experience and on mature reflection, I name as my best 2D video game of all time ... The Lost Vikings. Great concept, great levels, great challenge. I only played the sequel recently, but that's awesome too. Definitely worth checking out both games if they're new to you  :)

And lest we forget: Pacman !

Edit: I was thinking only in terms of consoles when I wrote this. If we're including PC games as well, look at my avatar to see where I stand.

Edit 2: Considering online flash games too, The Codex of Alchemical Engineering stands out. And you'd be hard pressed to find a better snooker game than Billiard Blitz: Snooker Star.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: kevin on January 03, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
The Lost Vikings (Longplays)


(amiga version)


DOS  (Full Walkthrough)



Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: monkeybot on January 03, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
Castle Quest was ace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spl9OP8Ivmc


on the BBC.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: bmorris on January 05, 2014, 07:59:30 AM
That CastleQuest looks good, might give it a go sometime.

You mentioned Icy Tower, Kevin. A few years ago, I had a phase of playing that game daily (it's addictive) but after they updated it and made it harder, I stopped. It was nice getting to every new N-100th floor for the first time and seeing the new artwork, and all the while, me and my brothers' dream was to get to that elusive 1000th floor. I did finally manage it, about five or six times in total, but on most of those occasions, I bottled it not long after passing 1000. However, one time, when I was "in the zone", I kept on and on going, reaching about floor 1120, and I tell you, it was a singular experience. I was on another planet.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: cybermind on May 17, 2014, 06:45:52 AM
A few came to mind while reading this post. In my younger years where I sat in front of the breadbox C64 I did not care much for The Great Giane Sisters but my younger sisters did though (which annoyed me greatly when our mother forced me to let them play as well), today I enjoy The Great Giana Sisters a lot! But the greatest 2D platformer I played must have been Flashback. It had a very good atmosphere, and firing the gun gave great satisfaction! The scenery was great and with much variation. I also liked Another World. I completed it back in the days on the Amiga and I recently played and completed a re-release of the PC version, it contains a level that was not in the Amiga version, the level was also in the original PC version. I have played the PC version before without being able to figure out the extra level. I also liked Syndicate, A LOT! Can Syndicate be in this thread as it was 3D isometric? Dune II, and Persian Gulf Inferno were also great 2D games. Wings of Fury gave me a lot of great hours. Does Eye of the Beholder fall out of the 2D category, seeing that it featured a simple 3D view? Well, anyway, my favourite has to be Flashback. There is a new version of Flashback in 3D by the way. I had hoped for a Flashback 2 with a new story and new locations, though...

EDIT: Forgot Superfrog... :-) (And LOADS of others)

EDIT 2: And more recent 2D games I like very much, FTL and Eschalon Book I (I just started playing Book II and I have not bought Book III yet). I played Book I a long time ago for a few hours, but those hours were only a scratch in the surface of what the game had to offer. I completed Escalon Book I not long ago. I am very excited to get Book II going :-) Hammerwatch is a great CO-OP game for the PC.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: monkeybot on March 02, 2015, 02:59:32 PM
Flappy Bird.

Not really.
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: kevin on March 06, 2015, 06:38:36 AM

prolly would be for  people born post 2005.



Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: kevin on May 01, 2021, 08:35:09 AM


   C64 Thrust longplay. All 24 levels


   
Title: Re: What's the best 2D video game ever made ?
Post by: game6789 on May 15, 2021, 12:00:22 PM
Thrust remind me of solar jet man on NES. Might be where the idea of the game came from.
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Post by: Hotshot on February 11, 2023, 03:03:52 PM
Ultimate Ghosts N Goblins  PSP as It look Amazing and hard game thought!